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Blog EntryNew feature request: Tag GroupingJul 31, '06 9:44 PM
by Reza for everyone

Dear Multiply,

Please consider this feature for your next release of the Multiply. It is urgent :D

I want to be able to add a link to a group of tags. Then I would be able to categorize my posts by selecting related Tags and creating interesting booklets. Then I introduce them on my welcome page as a Table of Contents. For example:

  • All of my poems
  • my minimals
  • Some articles about using the Multiply
  • My daily life events and some other unimportant things
  • non categorizable facts

you see how it would be more interesting if the manager of current group have the chance to create some subject areas in this site. For example:

  • New Features Repository
  • Resolved Problems
  • Bugs Reported
  • Multiply Tip and Tricks
  • Featured Articles
  • ...

regards

 


36 Comments
flyingmeteor wrote on Jul 31, '06
This is already possible, if your blogs are tagged properly. For example, I have a number of blogs tagged with general, you can see all the general tagged blogs by going here:
http://flyingmeteor.multiply.com/tag/general (Just replace 'general' with whatever you want)

Or am I missing something about this?
rezashakiba wrote on Jul 31, '06
I want a logical group of Tags so I could give them a new name and also link to them. For example,
Group Tag 1 ={love, friendship, kindness}, Group Tag 2={classic poem, modern poem}
and so on.... You mean the Network Tag... I know it is already exist.
tal7 wrote on Jul 31, '06
That sounds interesting... Better than everything at the same time in the same place...
danbirchall wrote on Jul 31, '06
Reza,

I had a similar situation, because I was tagging "too specifically."

For example, I had some things tagged "health" and others tagged "fitness" and so on... but then I realized that I didn't really need to have things that specific.

So I think I re-tagged all the "fitness" ones as "health" or vice versa, which made it easier to link to all of them as /tag/health.

Of course, since you can have multiple tags, you can also do something like a taxonomy. For example, I could tag something "birds falcons peregrine" and something else "birds falcons kestrel" and something else "birds owls pueo" so that someone who wanted to see all birds could go to /tag/birds, someone who wanted to see all falcons but not owls could go to /tag/falcons, and someone who wanted to see only kestrels could go to /tag/kestrel. And I could link to all of those.

But like Flyingmeteor says, I think you already can do what you want.
tal7 wrote on Jul 31, '06
Now that made more sense... But what can people do to retag lots of posts in one shot? It's really awful to have to retag them all one-by-one...
barefootmeg wrote on Aug 1, '06
tal7 said
Now that made more sense... But what can people do to retag lots of posts in one shot? It's really awful to have to retag them all one-by-one...
yeah. i just retagged all my recipes the other day and i definitely would have preferred doing it all in one go rather than having to click through to each separate post.
savinglove wrote on Aug 1, '06
Yup...'Edit Tag' feature to replace, add or edit tags would be useful.

I suppose we can't search for combine tags now right? Like what danbirchall said, we can only search for single tags and not a combination of it eg, Health+fitness or Health+sex or Health+flu

No?
rogeriototh wrote on Aug 1, '06
'Edit Tag' feature to replace, add or edit tags would be useful.
Agreed!
rogeriototh wrote on Aug 1, '06, edited on Aug 1, '06
In fact, I agree also with Reza, but I have another thought on how it can be done.

I actually do as flyingmeteor said. For instance, when I post something about my daughter's birthday, I tag that as "FAMILY, BIRTHDAY, MARIA ". So everything that is related to "MARIA" can be found easily, so as "FAMILY" and "BIRTHDAY stuff. (FAMILY is more general than BIRTHDAY and BIRTHDAY is more general than MARIA).

I do that to every post so I have now about 50 tags, which makes really hard to find a particular tag (except FAMILY and MARIA which are bigger than the others because of higher number of posts).

If we can select FAMILY and then it shows all the other Tags related to that, it would be easier to find other Tags related to FAMILY. It could be shown on that tag page as "Other tags related to tag FAMILY: BIRTHDAY, MARIA, HOLIDAY, VACATION". Anyway it won't solve the problem of having many tags on your home page. So it would be nice if we can decide which ones should be shown at the home page and make a link available to access all tags.
tal7 wrote on Aug 1, '06
Agreed! (3 times) XD
rezashakiba wrote on Aug 1, '06
I think, adding some basic type of hierarchy to tags, make it possible to manage knowledge more effectively. I believe that someday, we would have a particular columns just next any content that we write, no mater in Microsoft Word or any Weblog system. Then we could relate our contents to any leaf of a huge tree(human being knowledge base tree). So our search results would be more human understandable.
The point is that, tags are about knowledge management, not about information management. Using tags to categorizing our contents is not the way that tags created for. Actually my request returns to lack of a categorizing feature in Multiply, I asked it before and I hope someday we receive it.
Anyway, this was only a brain storming about tags and knowledge management. But as most of you said, we need more control over tags, at least a Tag Management system that allows us to edit them, more easily.
danbirchall wrote on Aug 1, '06
So Reza, are you asking that Multiply define a hierarchy of tags for us to use, instead of just giving us a freeform field in which we can enter whatever?
rezashakiba wrote on Aug 1, '06, edited on Aug 1, '06
no... not at all... I only asked the hierarchy... not a restricted, predefined, damn thing :D
danbirchall wrote on Aug 1, '06
If the hierarchy isn't defined by Multiply, who defines it, then? All of us? What if I decide that Bhutan belongs in "culture" while you feel it belongs in "travel?"
rezashakiba wrote on Aug 2, '06, edited on Aug 2, '06
If the hierarchy isn't defined by Multiply, who defines it, then? All of us? What if I decide that Bhutan belongs in "culture" while you feel it belongs in "travel?"
Both is OK. You would see your hierarchy, another one would see his/her hierarchy... Any Tag could be child of any other tag... technically, it is a many-to-many relationship... if you decide to see other hierarchies created by other people (your network)... then Multiply would show you the other branches that the TAG is belonged to... then you could easily navigate through a knowledge directory created and supported by many people. :)

It would also a great enhancement in Multiply Search tools, because you would receive a tree of links related to the keyword you searched about... If Multiply make it possible to allow us adding tags to any element (paragraphs, photoes, ...) then peoples have the chance to search for photos, Musics, Video Clips, Poems, etc... that are in the same mood (happy... sad... etc) Or just search for an special name, product... :D
danbirchall wrote on Aug 2, '06
Sorry, but allowing any tag to be a child of any tag would lead to circular patterns and general chaos. :)
rezashakiba wrote on Aug 2, '06
Yes... it is possible, but knowledge areas are overlaped and fuzzy... it is their nature... it is not a bad thing... :)
rezashakiba wrote on Aug 2, '06, edited on Aug 2, '06
I only asked a Group of Tags :( :D
barefootmeg wrote on Aug 2, '06
general chaos. :)
not just "general chaos" but "general chaos. *smiley*"

gotta love that.
kayobee wrote on Aug 6, '06
it would be nice if we can decide which ones should be shown at the home page and make a link available to access all tags
I think that's a really (really, really) excellent idea, and one that should be relatively easy to implement.

I'm not such a fan of the hierarchy notion, though. The general idea behind tags is anti-hierarchy, recognizing that the relationship between/among data is more complex that parent>child+sibling. Being able to select for display only what we think are the broadest or most meaningful of our many tags would cut down on the profusion-confusion in a way similar to hierarchies.

Two other suggestions that I think would make tags easier to use --

1) On the suggested page listing all our tags (you know, the one linked to from the home page, as rogeriototh describes), the ability to view the tags in table form and add comments/descriptions. Maybe I had a good reason at the time for setting up different categories for health and fitness, but I can't for the life of me remember now what they were. Here's a place where I can keep that information.

2) A drop down list, or a checkbox list, or a drag-and-drop list of my existing tags to select from when posting -- so I don't end up with tags for fitnesss and ftiness in addition to fitness.

kayobee wrote on Aug 6, '06
'Edit Tag' feature to replace, add or edit tags would be useful.
Would be marvelous, in fact.
everdred wrote on Aug 6, '06
kayobee said
2) A drop down list, or a checkbox list, or a drag-and-drop list of my existing tags to select from when posting -- so I don't end up with tags for fitnesss and ftiness in addition to fitness.
Ever tried clicking the little blue arrow next to "Tags" when posting? :)
barefootmeg wrote on Aug 6, '06
Ever tried clicking the little blue arrow next to "Tags" when posting? :)
woa!!!

no, i haven't.

that's pretty cool. it makes me realize that i have Way too many tags.

someday (when you guys get the "change all the tags for all your posts at one time on one page" thing done) i'll go back and make those things a bit more organized.
kayobee wrote on Aug 7, '06
Ever tried clicking the little blue arrow next to "Tags" when posting? :)
You know, I'm so used to the arrow appearing to the right of the entry box, Microsoft style, that I never even noticed it there, bright and bold and blue as it is.

It's great. Thanks for bringing it to my (so-called) attention.

deadlyblur wrote on Aug 7, '06
Ever tried clicking the little blue arrow next to "Tags" when posting? :)
Cripes, that's a slightly helpful feature I've been overlooking...nuts.
rogeriototh wrote on Aug 7, '06, edited on Aug 7, '06
no, i haven't.
Wow! that's incredible! it is there at least since mid last year! It is incredible that experienced users never saw it!

I think it is time to develolp a "Multiply Manual" explaining every piece of it!
barefootmeg wrote on Aug 7, '06
I think it is time to develolp a "Multiply Manual" explaining every piece of it!
isn't that what the help page is supposed to do? though i don't always find it easy to get my questions answered there.
tal7 wrote on Aug 7, '06
Then it's time for a complete reformulation of the Multiply's help system! \o/
barefootmeg wrote on Aug 7, '06
i'm all for that.
tejasmidget wrote on Aug 8, '06
well, can't say i'm more observant, but i am quite surprised that so many didn't notice the blue tags arrow.
barefootmeg wrote on Aug 8, '06
well, it IS just a little bit of blue in a sea of "stressing out that my post is just right." ;-)
tejasmidget wrote on Aug 8, '06
:)
luminousmoon wrote on Aug 13, '06
i am new, and a little lost. I just set up my home page with profile and links and everything.. well almost, except add tags. I just cant seem to find the icon anywhere on site that says "add tag".. could someone here please kindly direct me in detail? Thanks a million!
luminousmoon wrote on Aug 13, '06
ok, i just found it - add tag. Silly me, its just below the new blog title.
:-)
feiocious wrote on Nov 11, '06
I want a logical group of Tags so I could give them a new name and also link to them. For example,
Group Tag 1 ={love, friendship, kindness}, Group Tag 2={classic poem, modern poem}
and so on.... You mean the Network Tag... I know it is already exist.
That is so brilliant. Hahaha! I can say that you're an organized freak too. :D
gouda9 wrote on Mar 26
have a happy cheese day
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